Why do you believe that active management can beat indexing in the small cap space?
The most important reason is that there are significant inefficiencies in the small cap space which create more opportunities for proprietary fundamental research to add value. Fewer Wall Street analysts follow these companies. The probability that small companies will produce results that are significantly better than consensus expectations is high. Unlike big companies that have sales and revenue that are far more predictable, smaller companies work off of a smaller base with far more variable revenues and profits. There are more catalysts for surprises and those surprises actually have an impact. Small changes in a product line don’t move the needle at P&G, but can have a real impact at a small company.
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Financials have been a part of your portfolio consistently over the years and have recently contributed to your results. How do you view financial stocks at different points in the cycle?
Over time, we’ve done some dramatic repositioning in financials. Today, we see the positive changes in economic growth, housing, and improved credit quality as a signal to gain more leverage to higher rates and the improving economy. We’ve added more banks to our portfolio. Consider this chart which illustrates our views on which financial stocks do better at different parts of the cycle:
With an economy that has come full circle, the environment has stabilized and begun to improve, led by housing, with inflation remaining under control. While we don’t expect robust growth, we are buying some companies with economic sensitivity and leverage to rising rates including some commercial banks, debt recovery specialists, and insurers including Portfolio Recovery Associates (PRAA), Bank of Interet (BOFI),
and AmTrust Financial (AFSI)
. Our financials exposure today at over 40% exceeds the index weight of 38%.
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While yhou are primarily a stock picker, you have a macroeconomic overlay that dirves some of your stock selection. Can you describe it?
We look at the broader economy and overweight some sectors based on our outlook. Right now, we think there is risk in the Eurozone and emerging markets. While the US still sees some headwinds from residential housing, credit and labor markets, we expect US markets to perform better and have shifted our portfolio to companies more exposed to the US market than to Europe or emerging markets. Companies with the most exposure to foreign sales have seen the worst stock price performance. Consider the following chart:
Source: Cornerstone Macro - July 2013
The types of companies we like in this environment include value proposition retailers, low-price consumable brands and rent-to-own. We like companies such as Rent-a-Center, Inc. (RCII), Jarden Corp (JAH), Dollar Tree Inc. (DLTR), and Hanesbrands (HBI).
We also continue to invest in infrastructure plays that are leveraged to growing energy demand, including pipelines for domestic shale plays such as MasTec (MTZ) and companies that benefit from power distribution upgrades such as Valmont Industries (VMI). We like the commercial aircraft industry, such as component manufacturer Hexcel (HXL). And we continue to invest in the secular trend toward the growth in online services such as internet-based banking and retail, domain registries, online bill play, cloud services and digital media.
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What is your outlook for small value stocks?
This year, small stocks have outperformed, especially those whose primary business is domestic. In periods of economic recovery, small caps tend to do better and are more leveraged to economic growth. We look at PEG Ratios (P/E/annual growth rate) as a measure of stocks’ value relative to its growth. Consider the forward revenue growth rates, P/E ratios and PEG ratios for various indices.
|Russell 1000 (Large Cap)
|Russell 2000 (Small Cap)
Source: Cornerstone Macro - July 23, 2013
Historically, small caps have had better revenue growth than large caps and we think the market will pay for growth.
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A number of your stocks pay dividends. Do you look for dividend payers when selecting companies?
Our portfolio yield is usually in the ballpark of the benchmark, and most of the yield is concentrated in our REIT or utility holdings. Most of our stocks do not pay dividends however. We look for companies with good organic growth prospects who will use their cash to invest in their own growth versus paying out cash to shareholders in the form of a dividend. In our view, if a company can re-invest in their business and earn 15-20%, we’d prefer that to a dividend.
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About Michelle Stevens, CFA
Michelle Stevens is Senior Portfolio manager and has more than 18 years of investment industry experience, having managed mutual funds, sub-advised funds and institutional separate accounts in the Small-, Small-/Mid- (SMID) and All-Cap Value Equity disciplines. Stevens is the manager of the Baird Small Cap Value Fund (BSVIX, BSVSX). She holds an MBA from the University of Cincinnati and received her bachelor’s degree in economics from Wittenberg University. She also holds the Chartered Financial Analyst designation.
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